Comments on: Lonely, But Never Alone

By: Jade Kennedy

Jade Kennedy — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:56:51 +0000

Its a lonely walk that’s for sure. In search for fellowship I have tried many times in the past 4 years to go back to church and every time I do how quickly I am reminded why I left.

The trouble is, if I don’t walk closely with Jesus, the loneliness becomes unbearable and I start to indulge the World which, as you know, has a cascading effect. Trust me, it’s humiliating.

I always thought it was a blessing and a privledge to be called out of today’s ‘church’.

Thanks Chip for the article, it was very encouraging.

By: Dale

Dale — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:22:10 +0000

I agree with Chip, the org. is for man by man I have found more Jesus in reading the Bible than any org. .The org. has never changed any one.THe Bible says that only Jesus can do that . the org. fight with each other ,where did Jesus say that fighting was ok. I know that read,pray more than most org. do .I Love Jesus . Jesus has changed me . I pray that Jesus will help org.to find him.

By: Roger

Roger — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:39:33 +0000

I have shared before that my wife and I have been called out of mans religious system for some 20 years – during that time we have met others who have been out longer, some shorter, and others who are in the process of ‘coming out’. In every case, there has been pain, loneliness, and persecution, as we emerge, not ‘out of church’ and into the world as some would say, but out of mans religious system (Babylon), out of the world (Egypt) and into His Ekklesia and into a relationship with Jesus Christ our Saviour, Lord, Shepherd and King.

During our 20 years IN His Ekklesia,and as I read the comments of other people after this and the other teachings of Chip’s – I recognise that most are specifically ‘Called Out’ by our God Himself. This is by revelation of who Jesus Christ is, either through the written word (Bible) or the living word (Jesus).

At the same time there is the ‘emerging church’ which seems to have as one of its doctrines the concept that we have waited so long, and Jesus hasn’t returned yet… He isnt coming, we need to save the world ourselves. 2 Peter 3:4 specifically warns of this happening. Maybe those that believe this should read further, down to verses 9-10.

Be encouraged, Jesus Christ – our Saviour, Lord and King is in control. He loves us and always has – we only need to hear and obey His word to come out of her my people… and His promise of His continued everlasting dwelling with and in us. 2 Cor. 6: 16-18.

Our prayers are with you Chip and Karla.. you may feel lonely, but you are not alone.

By: pat

pat — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:05:58 +0000

This is one of my favorite of your articles, Chip!I’ve experienced times of loneliness several times during my Christian walk. The most profound of these times occured while still in the organized church. In 2000 I moved to NC, leaving behind a NY church which was undergoing “renewal. I began attending another highly active, charasmatic church. In the new church, people kept talking about how awesome “the presence of God was today!” But I felt mothing-nothing at all. During a 4yr, 7mo period of time, I saw my husband develop a relationship with the Lord, and I experienced a wonderful time of social relationships, but in private, I cried out to the Lord, “What’s wrong with me? What did I do that You no longer show Yourself to me?” I’d determined that this was just how it was going to be, and went along, satisfied with my “different” relationship with the Lord. Then one Sunday morning, the associate pastor shared a conversation he had with a person who was experiencing the same thing I was. In the pastors reply to this person, he told him,”The Lord didn’t leave you, He’s taking the world out of you. You’ve been taking entirely too much satisfaction from a form and a fashion…” (the activities of organized religion”) I was speechless-this man read my heart. He shared with the congregation my deepest fears, pleas and cries to God. I spent the next 3 weeks wailing for many hours each day. In learning the answer to my prayers, I’d been broken. When I recovered some, I got up the nerve to call this pastor. During the last 6 years, much has changed. Many of us, including this pastor, were kicked out. The deceipt and venumous behavior of “loving, Godly people” in leadership was intensely frightening. The Lord allowed me to see behind the curtain of organized church and clergy-laity relations. It reminded me of the wizard in The Wizard of Oz… One of the things I’ve learned since then is just how our fallen nature clings for social relationship, which in itself is not bad. But just beware of confusing it with spiritual one-anothering. Don’t leave the organized church to join a home group and expect all is well. Religiosity can still follow and will often creep in unexpectedly. And the worst part of that, is we can foolishly believe we’re free from it, forever letting down our guard. Be thankful for times of loneliness, allowing the Lord’s pruning and dependence on Him only. And be willing to admit when we’ve regressed to our old ways, turning back to the Lord as often as needed. If the Lord has called you, as I believe is the ministry of The School of Christ, speak out against organized church, but examine your motives. How much of what you say comes from unresolved anger and hurt rather than a pure message from God. And understand that you cannot convince someone about this message; you can only love and support the message revealed by the Lord to a persons heart.

By: Regina Rice

Regina Rice — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:16:32 +0000

I totally agree with you. The Lord told me to come out of the building called church about 7 years ago. He told me forget everything man had taught me that, HE was going to teach me now. I took Him at His word. He has made a believer out of me. When I first came out for about 4 years, some of us met in our homes. But, the Lord had to take that also. If we don’t have a personal relationship (or walk) with Him, then how can we give or recieve to or from the ones we do fellowship with at times. I know my journey with Him alone has taught me how to persevere in my storms. Without that I would not be where I am now. Don’t get me wrong I love to fellowship with true lovers of Him, but my personal relationship with Him is sweet. Thanks for allowing me to share my comment.

By: Shelley

Shelley — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:57:34 +0000

Seble:

You said, “that cutting ourselves off from the ‘organized religion’ is not the solution… that we have no right to take the seat of Christ…”.
Is it not true that we are indeed seated with Christ in heavenly places, and, if we are to abide in him we CANNOT be where He is not? You might ask if perhaps it is ‘another christ’ that has established himself in the institutionalized church. I too, have struggled with the desire to “not judge”, but what the Lord has shown me is that just as Peter was told not to call ‘unclean’ what the Lord has called ‘clean’, I am likewise not to call ‘clean’ what the Lord has called ‘unclean’. It is not the people to whom I refer it is the “system” that holds these people in bondage.

By: Gunner Junge

Gunner Junge — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:45:33 +0000

Brother Chip,
I regret to inform you that is no way to win friends and influence people…but I LIKE IT!!! Keep swingin’ for the fence. I have been reading some of your comments and listening to you for about a month now and appreciate your Tozer-like approach to Truth. Blessings to you for the razor-sharp way you cut to the heart of a matter instead of the current PC methods of today’s easy gospel. You bring a refreshing drink of Living Water to those who are thirsty for more of Christ. Thank you.

By: Chip Brogden

Chip Brogden — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:42:18 +0000

Hi Seble,

Once more, you are trying to defend something God never established. The key words you use that jump out to me are “fearful, refrain, be careful, don’t judge.” These are the words people use who are under the influence of a spirit of religion. Yes, you are wrong; because not everyone who says “Lord, Lord” really know Him as Lord. Organized Religion does not represent the Lord’s people, it represents a counterfeit. Those with spiritual discernment have an obligation to speak out against a system that keeps God’s people in bondage. To stand by and say nothing when God’s people are suffering under the yoke of bondage to Organized Religion is the most irresponsible, uncaring thing a person could do. We love the people – we hate the system that hurts people.

By: Seble

Seble — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:20:54 +0000

Well, I must say that leaving what you refer to as ‘Organized religion’ might not be the answer. True, churches are turning away from the turth of the gospel. But I fear that cutting ourselves off the so called ‘organized religion’ is not the solution. For one thing, we have no right to take the seat of Christ and pass on judgement. Secondly, we may not know for sure how the Lord would use us to refresh his people. Thirdly, we should refrain from generalizing too much. We are dealing with God’s flock. How would you feel if some one were to speak about your child the way we speak about people? Correct me if I am wrong, but it is a fearful thing to label God’s people. I think we should be careful.

By: Pam

Pam — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:07:48 +0000

No, you are not the only one who feels alone. My husband and I left organized religion in 2000. We have experienced many times of aloneness, especially when you go through hard times and need a shoulder to cry on. But Jesus has been there every step of the way. I yearn for TRUE fellowship too. But I have learned that I cannot leave this desert place until Jesus says it is finished. If I never leave the desert “It is well with My Soul” because He is never far away! I can honestly say in the desert “My strength comes from the Lord” and it is the truth!