Of these blessed few who choose to stand up and speak out against the religious system, the response seems to fall along one of three approaches. As we will see, only one approach is harmonious with the prophetic example set forth in the history of the people of God, and it is the one approach that seems to be the last resort instead of the first recourse. But let us consider them in the proper order.
First, there are those who call for what amounts to Reformation. These are the Martin Luthers who standup to the religious leadership and rightly confront their unscriptural practices. The well-meaning intention is to fix what is wrong with the church by identifying all of its problems and coming up with Scriptural solutions. But this represents a zealous naivety on the part of all would-be reformers. First, it assumes that once the leaders recognize their unscriptural practices, they will repent and change their ways. History has proven that this never happens. Second, it assumes that the church system is something God wants to reform, when the truth is that the church system was made by man and was never authorized by God in the first place. Reforming it has the same effect as patching an old garment with new cloth, or pouring new wine into old wineskins, which results in ruining both the old and the
new.
These attempts at reformation, if they are not quashed altogether, typically result in the establishment of something very similar to compete with what was already there. When the Catholic church rejected Luther, he founded another religious system based upon his understanding of Scriptural truth. To be sure it was an improvement over the Catholic system; but it was still a religious system nevertheless. From the Protestant Reformation many thousands of denominations have sprung, each more or less based upon their own interpretation of Scripture and upon the founding principles of the Roman Catholic church embedded in their history. The end result is that we are even further away from the simplicity of Christ with each attempt to repair what God never called us to build in the first place.
Second, there are those who espouse Revival as the cure to everything that ails Churchianity. The church is sleeping, and needs to be roused from sleep (so the thinking goes). The revivals of generations past, and the preachers who seemed to be instrumental in stirring up these revivals, are idealized and venerated as great heroes of the faith; the kind of people we need to be (or find) in order to experience the same kind of revival and awakening that they experienced. The Revivalist is similar to the Reformer in that both types of people hope to repair what is wrong with the church, hoping to spark a movement or a move of God that will shake the church out of complacency and restore something of the power that the early Christians had. But the Revivalist lays emphasis more on the spiritual experience than Scriptural integrity. This naturally creates a certain hankering after signs, wonders, miracles, and visible manifestations of the “power” of God as evidences and proofs that God is moving or doing something to revive and restore to what used to be.
Again, the clear witness of Scripture and the prophetic record of God’s dealings with His people rises up to contradict the Revivalist in his enthusiastic naivety. Yes, it is true that revivals and spiritual awakenings have occurred and will continue to occur. One of the greatest revivals of the 20th Century was the charismatic movement, which formed the background of my own spiritual awakening. Even so, however much individual people may have benefitted from these revivals and spiritual movements, none of these things have resulted in any fundamental change to Churchianity itself. The religious system continues on, and the deception and abuse it dispenses in the name of God gets worse with every generation.
God will not continue to pour out His Spirit or send any kind of revival to people who still remain in a religious system that God has judged and called us to come out of. Any real pouring out of God’s Spirit must result in a people being called out; God is not the author of something that requires people to go back to Babylon in order to benefit from it themselves, or to bring Life to it. On the contrary, the very idea of “revival” is frequently used by Churchianity in a desperate attempt to breathe new life into something that is clearly dead. It is dead because it is under the judgment of God. He has not called us to bring it back to life again; on the contrary, His judgment says, “Follow Me, and let the dead bury their dead” (Mt.8:22).
While God has certainly been patient with His people and has even blessed efforts to reform or revive, it has always been with an understanding that He was calling those who had been reformed and revived to come out and be obedient to Him. The prophetic declaration is to “come out of [Babylon], My people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues” (Rev. 18:4).
God’s ultimate intention is neither Reformation nor Revival, but Repudiation! Repudiation is a strong word. It means, “to reject the authority or validity of; to disown or cast off.” But this is precisely what followers of Jesus have had to do from the very beginning. To the elders and high priests of Judaism, the apostles stated simply, “We must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29). Later, when the Christian Church took on the same religious spirit as the Jewish Sanhedrin, other men and women followed in the same tradition of the apostles and repudiated the authority of the religious establishment in order to maintain the Testimony of Jesus. They were neither Reformers nor Revivalists; they simply repudiated the religious system altogether.
There is a wonderful reformation happening right now – not within the religious system, but within the hearts and minds of people who are repudiating that system. There is a tremendous revival taking place right now, and it is a revival along spiritual lines, among those who have heeded the call to “come out of Babylon” and have been raised to new Life. God is revealing Christ to people, and people are learning how to enter into Him and how to live in Him, and how to walk in Him. They are leaving the complexities of Religion for the simplicity of Relationship. This is a quiet reformation, a quiet revival, a grass-roots movement that is governed by the Holy Spirit.











Hi Chip,
I am convinced that if Jesus preached in most churches today he would offend 99% present.
It’s lonely on the outside; that’s true. Our Christian friends are off in all directions: conferences, seminars, prophetic schools, signs and wonders revivals…
It can get alarming when “global” ministers are teaching that if signs and wonders don’t follow you, then you need to follow signs and wonders!
Staying connected to The Head is vital to avoid deception in these days.
Christ must be our focus or we will get off track. He takes precedence over reformations, revivals, whatever.
He is TRANSFORMATION through revelation of Himself. He revives continuously, and I don’t have to pay airfare and hotel fees to have Him!!!
I see a line being drawn where we are going to have to make a choice: Christ or Religion. This is a sobering fact.
Chip,
Thanks for the information that you are presenting here on the site. I’ve recently become a subscriber after a 5 year battle to leave the “system”. I thought I was crazy for doing it, but finding your site and the information you present lets me know I’m not as crazy as I thought I was!
God Bless Your Ministry!
Love your insights.
I desire “Revelation” more than Revival or Reformation.
Having said that many thoughts come to mind but “the’ Revelation that I am talking about is the only one that the Father is concerned about. The Revelation, Revealing
Apokalupto, Uncover, lay open what has been veiled or covered up. Disclose and uncover ! Yes and Amen. Now I understand Paul in Galatians 1:16. To REVEAL HIS SON IN and forever IN me! This was Paul’s purpose and his calling. God only has one purpose and plan. It is the Son who “is” the completed work of God. He must be revealed in, through and with us.
OH GOD, REVEAL YOUR SON IN ME.
I sent your writing today to the people in my former congregation with an explanation of the journey the Lord has taken me on to get to this point of understanding. I pray they will at least think on these things! I had a vision recently of Jesus returning for His people, and there were churches full of people just staring at the pulpit, totally unaware of what was happening! And when they realized, they are the ones who were saying to Jesus, “Didn’t we say Lord! Lord! Didn’t we cast out demons in the name of Jesus?!” and He turned to them and said “But I never knew you.” It made me sad. What a false sense of security and massive deception in the name of the Lord.
What makes it so clear they are under deception is the fact that no one even notices when a person in the church does something horrible to someone else. They aren’t moved to right the wrong or even reach out to the hurting person! Shocking. Those who are humble and submitted to the Lord would receive a ready conviction to make things right. Religious pride and indifference instead of brokenness and the Lord’s heart…..
Yes; dear chip, The so called church is not the Church that The Christ is building. It is just a religioous system in the name of Jesus. It is a hiding place from God. The religious people hide behind their self righteousness, their good deeds. It is the religious people who Crucified Jesus and they are doing it every day. The Church that Christ is building is unobservable. The church that we can see, touch and handle is a demonic replica, founded on the Western sophistry, founded on the socio/religious dogmas, founded on the Clock and Calendar.
“The church is looking after the derelicts of This World, looking after their flesh, supporting old Adam, supporting Satan. Noel Stanton
The church is all too ften a pool to fish in rather than boat to fish from. David Watson
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Brother Chip,
I am grateful for your ministry and insight about the Church verses Babylon. I have been outside of the “system church” looking in since I was baptised into the Holy Spirit in 1985. I was born again in 1973 in the local church movement which had the anointed teachings of Watchman Nee on the Normal Christian Church Life but was “controlled” by another leader. My desire is to see and be the bride of Christ, not to go to church, so thanks again for your labor in the Word of God and your obedience to spread it freely. It may not seem to get out to as many as you’d like but it gets to everyone that the Lord has ordained and given an ear to hear it! Sincerely, Your co-laborer, in Jesus’ service, brother jerry b baker <
Thanks for the affirmative words in your post. I have had to repudiate ‘Babylon’ not only in the Church system but also in my family system that uses scripture to control and manipulate anyone vulnerable for security and that sense of belonging among people. In that setting, repudiating meant for me to solely rely on Christ as my authority and security for the past 10 years. His leading and counsel has been more profound than any fleshly sense of security I’ve ever had before.
Good thinking!! We were never created to “heck our brains at the door!” God led me out of “church” and into freedom. (Him) It was for freedom sake, that Christ set us free. It took a long time to let go the vestiges of the system,and to this day if I set foot in a church building, I think… what if… BUT the Lord doesn’t live there, He lives in the new temple- me. Outside the system there is perspective and the whole field, which is Christ, becomes apparent. I am for the ages so grateful that He chose me to come out. He did the choosing, lest i boast.
All is after the council of His own will and after all, it is all HIS-story.
I continue to learn to rely on His spirit in me to lead, and He does- in places I never thought I’d go. Each time I took a step, He has met me. I believe, I am richer for it and God is freer in me as well.
yes chip i am glad to be contacted with you on the internet and by your books–i have also experienced dissatisfaction with churchianity–the way the lord has guided me is thru an understanding of the difference between ontological and epistemological relations with him and your writtings have helped me to understand these philisophical viewpoints.
I’m so grateful for you Chip..to have someone put a voice to what I know and believe only do it waaay better than I could..That’s such a blessing.
My Husband died recently and because i was desperate for human fellowship, I visited a church. I found out that even if they are seeking the Lord , I could never sit under an organized church system again!
Lynn,
I am so sorry for your loss. I hope that the Lord brings you the companionship you need both through the relationship you enjoy with Him and also with people in your life to encourage you and be with you. My heart goes out to you and I will be praying for you! I am so thankful for the fellowship we share in Christ! It is such a blessing to have the encouragement here to grow, learn, and support one another.
God bless you!
This post is so encouraging as I’ve been out of church for about 12 years and missing being connected to a body. But the Lord has just not allowed my going back to any church or group. I have been feeling as if I was wandering in the desert never to find my way. Evenso, the Lord has been right there by my side encouraging me every step of the way, as He’s done this morning through your post. Thank you! keep up the great work you are doing. Your teachings have been keeping me going through all these years and I am blessed to have seen your ministry grow by leaps and bounds.
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Blessings to you,
Camie Reyes