Comments on: The Crisis of a Christless Christianity

By: Christy

Christy — Sat, 29 May 2010 20:10:36 +0000

Thank you for putting into words the explanation about how even praise and worship can be without Christ within it.

I discovered that about 20 or so years ago, as the veil began to fall from my eyes so I could truly see. I loved praise and worship, but more and more, as Christ began His work of revealing Himself in me, I realized He really wasn’t the object of our worship anymore. I assume He never was, but I just hadn’t seen it yet. The worship lyrics suddenly began to be just that–words. Empty, lifeless words at that. I was sad about that because it was such a huge part of my life, but knew if I wanted the abundant life He promised me, and to grow up in HIM, I had to follow Him and leave the shallowness of man-made religious observances behind. HE became the object of my adoration, and so brought me more fulfillment than I’d ever known before, even in one thousand and one praise and worship services!

I don’t ever discourage anyone, though, who is in that place I was 20 years ago because I trust that the Father has His gentle timing in bringing those who are SINCERELY seeking Him first into a deeper walk in Christ.

And, although what was life to me no longer brought Life in me, there was a time that the worship (public and private) helped me through some very deep waters, so to me at that time, it was where Father God ministered to my brokenness. So, I am VERY thankful to Him for that. Now, I receive and give love to Him in music, just not at the local organized church. I so appreciate now the traditional hymns, too, when before I thought they were, well, kind of boring! Lol. Praise God for the great hymns of old!

By: eve

eve — Thu, 06 May 2010 13:26:52 +0000

It’s all about Christ yes, life’s purpose and meaning and to seek to be so lead by Christ is a Christian’s highest calling.

I would add, I am a member of the Ekklesia Christ’ spiritual church but I am also a member of a fellowship. Yes I see many things that could be improved in my fellowship, but I find deep within that my personal ministry includes those within my fellowship who seek a deeper walk with the Lord. It is like they are my neighbours.

Who will show them the way, if we who are in the Ekklesia abandon them to their Christless Christianity?

Christ walked with those who were the rejected members of society. I walk with those who seek Christ in a sometimes Christless church.

Seek Christ and ask Him what you are meant to be doing in your relationship with him.

Dead works, that is work without Christ’s blessing are fruitless, pointless and a waste of your resources given to you by Christ.

Eve UK

By: Dana

Dana — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:41:44 +0000

I’m not sure what reluctant visitor meant by his last sentence but I do know that I really appreciate true teachers of God’s Word. When I came to Jesus I was just amazed when I would read the Bible and know a lot of what it meant, or I would listen to a teaching and I would know it to be true. I realized that the truth was in me and I knew the teaching to be true without ever studying. I also know I have a heart that can be deceitful and lead astray.( Jer. 17:9)Teachers can help us bring the truth that is in us out, and to encourage, convict, rebuke and train in righteousness. I believe some have a true gift from God to teach the word. Some people are audio learners who learn better hearing the word rather then reading. Some have to work many hours to provide for their families and have time constraints from studying the Bible. I also know I can learn from the least to the greatest because each has a unique relationship with God and God reveals his truths to us. We need to have discernment and to be a lover of the truth. I know I need the ecclesia to grow in Jesus. If it was all up to me I may believe I can live a carnal lifestyle for myself without embracing the cross or I may believe I need to live a monk lifestyle out away from all people of the world. It’s not me and Jesus – it’s Jesus, me and the His body growing together being built up together into a spiritual house. (1Pet.2:4-5)

By: Reluctant Visitor

Reluctant Visitor — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:34:20 +0000

IF someone has a personal relationship with THE Lord Jesus Christ/Immanuel, why would they need to learn from anyone else? Christ is the head, right? Of course! So that makes him the proverbial “horse’s mouth”, now doesn’t it?! Therefore, what within you, or without you, is stopping you from going to the “horse’s mouth”? Come to me, saith the Lord, and I will feed you. Before he left, didn’t he say that he would send the spirit of truth who would teach you all things?

Chip, you old sheepdog, what are ya herdin’ up the slopes of Zion?

By: Marjorie House

Marjorie House — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:25:03 +0000

Hello Chip

All I can say is good stuff. Excellent article.
This is a article that you should post often…Bless God

By: Tommy Ng

Tommy Ng — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:24:23 +0000

The scripture records how easily people can lose focus on Christ even for 1st Century followers eg. Seven sons of Sceva (Acts 19:11-20), Simon the sorcerer (Acts 8:9-24), etc. Thanks for reminding us that it is all about Jesus, no more, and no less!

By: Paradise

Paradise — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:25:35 +0000

thank you, I’ll get to it after i finish “the crisis…

By: Chip Brogden

Chip Brogden — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:18:35 +0000

For a better understanding of what I mean by "the Lord's Need" click here.

By: Paradise

Paradise — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:11:41 +0000

“Do we reach out to the world based on their own self-serving need, or based on the Lord’s Need?”

does the Lord really “NEED” us? Or does he “WANT” us?

By: Teddy

Teddy — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:01:04 +0000

A big Amen!brother Chip.