Comments on: The Remnant Principle (Part 1) http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html Christ-Centered Teaching for Christ-Centered Living Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:23:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dale http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1048 Dale Thu, 29 Apr 2010 02:27:02 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-1048 Sharon You just keep reading the Bible & let the Holy Spirit show you the way . I was honored to talk with you . We all have thing that give us problems . I want to thank Chip for letting us talk .I will pray for you & this site . Sharon You just keep reading the Bible & let the Holy Spirit show you the way . I was honored to talk with you . We all have thing that give us problems . I want to thank Chip for letting us talk .I will pray for you & this site .

]]> By: Sharon http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046 Sharon Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:04:48 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-1046 Hi Dale, I'm sorry for over-reacting. As I said, a couple of my friends have pressured me not to celebrate Christmas, because they feel it is wrong, for reasons I'm sure you know. For years I felt afraid that this particular friend would come over my house and see my tree (talk about hypocritical- that description fits me perfectly!) Finally last year we were making plans to get together, and I had the courage to say- if you come over my house, don't lecture me please that I have a Christmas tree. The funny thing, is, if it weren't for my mentally retarded daughter, I wouldn't bother with one. I don't think its wrong. I just don't care about it one way or the other. But my daughter does, so I basically put it up for her. But the thing I have issue with, is my 2 friends quote the Bible to say that it is wrong to celebrate Christmas. That's what I have issue with. So when I heard you talking about the Bible along the same vein, it basically triggered something in me that brought back alot of yucky feelings. I read the word everyday, not because I have to, but because I want to. I love the word, and like you, it teaches me, etc. But if a day goes by and I'm too busy, its no big deal. I just have issue with people quoting the Bible to "prove" their point. There have been times when even though people have proved" their point, I have still turned around and said, I'm sorry, but I don't believe that. To give an example, the last time this happened was with the issue of tithing. I'm learning to speak up about these things, instead of being roped in and then pretending like I did for years with the whole Christmas issue. It caused me many years of anxiety, and left a really bad taste in my mouth. Blessings to you Dale! Hope this email will explain why I responded how I did. Hi Dale,
I’m sorry for over-reacting.
As I said, a couple of my friends have pressured me not to celebrate Christmas, because they feel it is wrong, for reasons I’m sure you know.
For years I felt afraid that this particular friend would come over my house and see my tree (talk about hypocritical- that description fits me perfectly!)
Finally last year we were making plans to get together, and I had the courage to say- if you come over my house, don’t lecture me please that I have a Christmas tree.
The funny thing, is, if it weren’t for my mentally retarded daughter, I wouldn’t bother with one. I don’t think its wrong. I just don’t care about it one way or the other. But my daughter does, so I basically put it up for her.
But the thing I have issue with, is my 2 friends quote the Bible to say that it is wrong to celebrate Christmas. That’s what I have issue with.
So when I heard you talking about the Bible along the same vein, it basically triggered something in me that brought back alot of yucky feelings.
I read the word everyday, not because I have to, but because I want to. I love the word, and like you, it teaches me, etc. But if a day goes by and I’m too busy, its no big deal.
I just have issue with people quoting the Bible to “prove” their point.
There have been times when even though people have
proved” their point, I have still turned around and said, I’m sorry, but I don’t believe that. To give an example, the last time this happened was with the issue of tithing.
I’m learning to speak up about these things, instead of being roped in and then pretending like I did for years with the whole Christmas issue. It caused me many years of anxiety, and left a really bad taste in my mouth.
Blessings to you Dale!
Hope this email will explain why I responded how I did.

]]> By: Dale http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1045 Dale Wed, 28 Apr 2010 03:19:51 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-1045 I have read one chapter say a year & the holy Spirit showed me one thing. Then I read the same chapter & the Holy Spirit shows me a deeper part . I have been reading the Bible a while & I do not find it full of dos & do nots. I could have got as far as I am with out the Holy Spirit . I am glade to hear that you are home schooling your kids. Jesus said love your brother & if you do things out of love then where are the dos & do nots. The Word of God (Bible) with the Holy Spirit Is the answer to all thing that I have seen . It is hard to do what is right. Some thing that the Holy Spirit has showed me is impossible to put in to words.I have some times fail to put it all down. I thank you for showing me that . I guess that you could say that the Bible is just a book with out the Holy Spirit . I don"t a lot of things that religion sees in the Bible but there is no way either of us will change but I will talk to any of them . To argue one of the two has to get mad . By the way I do not see the rapture in the Bible . Most religions get the rules from the Bible . I should say that you should ask the Holy Spirit to help you to teach you the truths in the Bible. I have just called it studying because to me looking for the truth is what I am doing. I pray that I have not hurt your feelings at all . I must say that I have found this talk to be very helpful . I thank You & pray that the Holy Spirit help to find God the way He is looking for You .looking forward to hearing from you I have read one chapter say a year & the holy Spirit showed me one thing. Then I read the same chapter & the Holy Spirit shows me a deeper part . I have been reading the Bible a while & I do not find it full of dos & do nots. I could have got as far as I am with out the Holy Spirit . I am glade to hear that you are home schooling your kids. Jesus said love your brother & if you do things out of love then where are the dos & do nots. The Word of God (Bible) with the Holy Spirit Is the answer to all thing that I have seen . It is hard to do what is right. Some thing that the Holy Spirit has showed me is impossible to put in to words.I have some times fail to put it all down. I thank you for showing me that . I guess that you could say that the Bible is just a book with out the Holy Spirit . I don”t a lot of things that religion sees in the Bible but there is no way either of us will change but I will talk to any of them . To argue one of the two has to get mad . By the way I do not see the rapture in the Bible . Most religions get the rules from the Bible . I should say that you should ask the Holy Spirit to help you to teach you the truths in the Bible. I have just called it studying because to me looking for the truth is what I am doing. I pray that I have not hurt your feelings at all . I must say that I have found this talk to be very helpful . I thank You & pray that the Holy Spirit help to find God the way He is looking for You .looking forward to hearing from you

]]> By: Sharon http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1043 Sharon Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:32:28 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-1043 Hi Everybody, I have to apologize to everyone. I finally have found an outlet where I think I can talk openly with people, but I'm finding all this frustration and anger coming out. I'm really angry at the church, for a number of reasons. And I'm angry at myself, because I have done and been many of these things. I've been more of a hindrance than a help to God's Kingdom, and still feel this is probably the case. I guess with most of my friends, I have to zip my lip, because most are still in the system. But keep being afraid I'll get booted off this site. Is there a place in this world where people can be real? Hi Everybody,
I have to apologize to everyone.
I finally have found an outlet where I think I can talk openly with people, but I’m finding all this frustration and anger coming out.
I’m really angry at the church, for a number of reasons.
And I’m angry at myself, because I have done and been many of these things.
I’ve been more of a hindrance than a help to God’s Kingdom, and still feel this is probably the case.
I guess with most of my friends, I have to zip my lip, because most are still in the system.
But keep being afraid I’ll get booted off this site.
Is there a place in this world where people can be real?

]]> By: Sharon http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1039 Sharon Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:03:25 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-1039 Is it that Christians don't study the Bible enough that is the real problem? I read a book where the author claimed Jesus told her that only 20% of Christians are ready for the Rapture. I'm not saying whether this is true or not. The point I want to make is that if you tell Christians that, assuming it is true, that 80% of Christians will think that they are in the 20%, and about 20% may wonder if they are in the 80%. I homeschooled my kids, and I found an elitist attitude in the homeschoolers, that somehow we homeschoolers were somehow more spiritual, holier, etc, etc, than those Christians that sent their kids to public school. I think we need to guard against that kind attitude wherever we are at in our spiritual walk. Afterall, isn't that the Pharisaical attitude that made standards of behavior that others had to follow if they were to be as "holy" as the Pharisees thought themselves to be? One of the lessons that I learned with homeschooling is that every form of schooling has its strengths and weaknesses, and that as believers we are to be seeking the Lord as to His will for us at every point of our life, not just following a set of "rules" that others have decided are the "right" thing to do. The Bible is a wonderful book. It is God's inspiration to man. I could be wrong, but I believe it is to point us to God, not become a manual consisting of a bunch of rules. I know people think its right, and even teach that all of God's will toward us is found in that book. I have trouble with that. I see the Bible more as a diving board. Its a good way to jump in. But if the Bible is all we need, then why did Jesus send His Holy Spirit? If the Bible was all we needed to know, why does the Bible tell us that Holy Spirit will teach us all things? I don't mean to argue with anyone. I think each of us need to seek God as to what He wants us to do in each situation. And then we are to do it, without expecting everyone else to follow suit. When we start making rules such as don't touch this, don't do that, we've lost the whole point. Is it that Christians don’t study the Bible enough that is the real problem?
I read a book where the author claimed Jesus told her that only 20% of Christians are ready for the Rapture. I’m not saying whether this is true or not. The point I want to make is that if you tell Christians that, assuming it is true, that 80% of Christians will think that they are in the 20%, and about 20% may wonder if they are in the 80%.
I homeschooled my kids, and I found an elitist attitude in the homeschoolers, that somehow we homeschoolers were somehow more spiritual, holier, etc, etc, than those Christians that sent their kids to public school. I think we need to guard against that kind attitude wherever we are at in our spiritual walk.
Afterall, isn’t that the Pharisaical attitude that made standards of behavior that others had to follow if they were to be as “holy” as the Pharisees thought themselves to be?
One of the lessons that I learned with homeschooling is that every form of schooling has its strengths and weaknesses, and that as believers we are to be seeking the Lord as to His will for us at every point of our life, not just following a set of “rules” that others have decided are the “right” thing to do.
The Bible is a wonderful book. It is God’s inspiration to man.
I could be wrong, but I believe it is to point us to God, not become a manual consisting of a bunch of rules. I know people think its right, and even teach that all of God’s will toward us is found in that book. I have trouble with that. I see the Bible more as a diving board. Its a good way to jump in. But if the Bible is all we need, then why did Jesus send His Holy Spirit? If the Bible was all we needed to know, why does the Bible tell us that Holy Spirit will teach us all things?
I don’t mean to argue with anyone. I think each of us need to seek God as to what He wants us to do in each situation. And then we are to do it, without expecting everyone else to follow suit.
When we start making rules such as don’t touch this, don’t do that, we’ve lost the whole point.

]]> By: Dale http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1038 Dale Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:54:36 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-1038 I did not trying to change the ideal of the remnant principle to the christmas . It is the ideal that most christians do not really study the bible enough to see the problem. I do not agree with the mixing of truths and the worlds. I try very hard to do or say only what I see in the bible and I find a lot of the world in what I use to believe in . If you find christmas hard then look at remnant ,realize That some of the family we love will not be saved. that is what really hurts me . I did not trying to change the ideal of the remnant principle to the christmas . It is the ideal that most christians do not really study the bible enough to see the problem. I do not agree with the mixing of truths and the worlds. I try very hard to do or say only what I see in the bible and I find a lot of the world in what I use to believe in . If you find christmas hard then look at remnant ,realize That some of the family we love will not be saved. that is what really hurts me .

]]> By: Sharon http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1034 Sharon Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:38:13 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-1034 I like your response. I've been all over the place with Christmas, and have come to a similiar conclusion. Its a day I enjoy spending with my family. I still am pressured by a couple of friends not to celebrate it at all, while most of my friends feel "Jesus is the reason for the season". I think Satan loves all the controversy about Christmas. I guess the key is for each person is to seek the Lord on this matter, and then follow His leading. The problem comes (and I'm not saying those that have commented on this site have done this, talking about it is good) when people start putting their expectations on others what to believe or what to do concerning these matters. It seems to me that the holidays (Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, and especially Halloween) have become a battleground for Christians against the world. But I just wonder what type of fruit all this is producing. I like your response.
I’ve been all over the place with Christmas, and have come to a similiar conclusion. Its a day I enjoy spending with my family.
I still am pressured by a couple of friends not to celebrate it at all, while most of my friends feel “Jesus is the reason for the season”.
I think Satan loves all the controversy about Christmas.
I guess the key is for each person is to seek the Lord on this matter, and then follow His leading. The problem comes (and I’m not saying those that have commented on this site have done this, talking about it is good) when people start putting their expectations on others what to believe or what to do concerning these matters.
It seems to me that the holidays (Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, and especially Halloween) have become a battleground for Christians against the world.
But I just wonder what type of fruit all this is producing.

]]> By: Dale http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-853 Dale Sun, 21 Feb 2010 05:45:16 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-853 I am sorry but Christmas is the world.I love the gifts. If we celebrate Jesus everyday ,then why do we need a one day to celebrate. In genesis the 7th day had no end. So the Sabbath has NO end,every day is to be the Sabbath. Christmas even in most church's is about the gifts they are getting. You will lye to your little kids about santa claus . I agree that it seem wrong not to have the tree,but where do you draw the line. I Believe the Bible is the answer. Everyday is the Lords Day I am sorry but Christmas is the world.I love the gifts. If we celebrate Jesus everyday ,then why do we need a one day to celebrate. In genesis the 7th day had no end. So the Sabbath has NO end,every day is to be the Sabbath. Christmas even in most church’s is about the gifts they are getting. You will lye to your little kids about santa claus . I agree that it seem wrong not to have the tree,but where do you draw the line. I Believe the Bible is the answer. Everyday is the Lords Day

]]> By: Chip Brogden http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-523 Chip Brogden Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:48:24 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-523 Hi Cheryl, I believe Romans 14:5 applies here, even though the context is keeping the Sabbath, it's still the same principle. We do celebrate the Christmas season, not as a religious holiday, but as a time for family and friends. We're under no delusion that Jesus was actually born on December 25. We celebrate Him everyday. Hi Cheryl,

I believe Romans 14:5 applies here, even though the context is keeping the Sabbath, it’s still the same principle. We do celebrate the Christmas season, not as a religious holiday, but as a time for family and friends. We’re under no delusion that Jesus was actually born on December 25. We celebrate Him everyday.

]]> By: Cheryl http://theschoolofchrist.org/articles/the-remnant-principle-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-522 Cheryl Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:37:03 +0000 http://www.theschoolofchrist.org/socwp/wordpress/?p=280#comment-522 I am appreciating the principle of Babylon. I have been wrestling with a certain tradition that seems so entrenched in our lives. No one ever questions it - just partakes. This tradition looks like the world, feels like the world and smells like the world. Upon studying the roots I have learned disturbing truth so I am trying to not participate, but proves to be hard as it is everywhere (even among my family)...this tradition is Christmas. What are your thoughts on this? Cheryl I am appreciating the principle of Babylon. I have been wrestling with a certain tradition that seems so entrenched in our lives. No one ever questions it – just partakes. This tradition looks like the world, feels like the world and smells like the world. Upon studying the roots I have learned disturbing truth so I am trying to not participate, but proves to be hard as it is everywhere (even among my family)…this tradition is Christmas. What are your thoughts on this?
Cheryl

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