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	Comments on: He Himself Gave	</title>
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		By: Rich		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/june20#comment-4559</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with your short verification of what God has provided the Ekklesia to go grow in Him. When people hear of the five fold ministries they only have what the institutional church does with them as an example. They are not salaried positions, they are not titles, they are not vocations.

Paul mentioned several functions in the body. The functions were not called ministries, this was the institutional churches doing. We all function doing various things during a routine day yet they are not salaried positions nor titles. The one that sticks out in my mind is a Mother; Chef, doctor, psychologist, teacher, taxi driver etc. None are intended to be titles or salaried positions. The functions in the body are the same they are there but denied by most religions. The religions that don&#039;t deny them cherry pick the ones they can exploit and make a bad name for that function.

Most of what has been learned from the religious system cannot be used to have a functioning group of called out believers. Phrases like &quot;fivefold ministry&quot;  need to be dropped from our vocabulary because they conjure up the way the institutional church is run. We cannot bring Egypt into what the Lord is building. There are brothers and sisters out there that have the gift of healing, yet haven&#039;t a clue because all they see in the religious world are those exploiting a function in the body of Christ.

These functions are for the body of Christ. If they are not there then one should question what body is being represented. The function of the shepherd is the most abused and well known amongst the professing, today they are schooled by man, salaried vocations created by religion. You can be sure where the other functions claim to be operating they have been exploited for personal gain as well. If disciples of Christ hope to function with functions mentioned by Paul it will not be done correctly in Babylon or Egypt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your short verification of what God has provided the Ekklesia to go grow in Him. When people hear of the five fold ministries they only have what the institutional church does with them as an example. They are not salaried positions, they are not titles, they are not vocations.</p>
<p>Paul mentioned several functions in the body. The functions were not called ministries, this was the institutional churches doing. We all function doing various things during a routine day yet they are not salaried positions nor titles. The one that sticks out in my mind is a Mother; Chef, doctor, psychologist, teacher, taxi driver etc. None are intended to be titles or salaried positions. The functions in the body are the same they are there but denied by most religions. The religions that don&#8217;t deny them cherry pick the ones they can exploit and make a bad name for that function.</p>
<p>Most of what has been learned from the religious system cannot be used to have a functioning group of called out believers. Phrases like &#8220;fivefold ministry&#8221;  need to be dropped from our vocabulary because they conjure up the way the institutional church is run. We cannot bring Egypt into what the Lord is building. There are brothers and sisters out there that have the gift of healing, yet haven&#8217;t a clue because all they see in the religious world are those exploiting a function in the body of Christ.</p>
<p>These functions are for the body of Christ. If they are not there then one should question what body is being represented. The function of the shepherd is the most abused and well known amongst the professing, today they are schooled by man, salaried vocations created by religion. You can be sure where the other functions claim to be operating they have been exploited for personal gain as well. If disciples of Christ hope to function with functions mentioned by Paul it will not be done correctly in Babylon or Egypt.</p>
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		By: John Campbell		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/june20#comment-4558</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post Chip! As you strongly alluded to;   the five fold  ministry has a ONE FOLD purpose to build up the Body of Christ,obtaining the unity of faith within the fullness of Christ,  by the knowledge of the Son of God, as we mature and build each other up in Love.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Chip! As you strongly alluded to;   the five fold  ministry has a ONE FOLD purpose to build up the Body of Christ,obtaining the unity of faith within the fullness of Christ,  by the knowledge of the Son of God, as we mature and build each other up in Love.</p>
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		By: Lynne Clark		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/june20#comment-4557</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen, what a blessing, so needed in the body of Christ, God bless you Chip]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, what a blessing, so needed in the body of Christ, God bless you Chip</p>
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		By: joan rachal		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/june20#comment-4556</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[thank you for your posts on Facebook, they are encouraging .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for your posts on Facebook, they are encouraging .</p>
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		By: Andrew Mc Donald		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/june20#comment-4555</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen to that, more than ever we need God called anointed and appointed ministry. Jesus gave these gifts to the body of Christ to bless them. The more time goes on we can see why Paul charged Timothy his son in the faith to &quot;preach the word&quot; this is so important as today we see the wisdom of man preached everywhere. Keep preaching it brother Amen!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that, more than ever we need God called anointed and appointed ministry. Jesus gave these gifts to the body of Christ to bless them. The more time goes on we can see why Paul charged Timothy his son in the faith to &#8220;preach the word&#8221; this is so important as today we see the wisdom of man preached everywhere. Keep preaching it brother Amen!!!</p>
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		By: Dave Henderson		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/june20#comment-4554</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have I obtained all these things.  There seems to me to be a weaning process as the Lord reveals himself and brings us into place of full maturity at which time these things aren&#039;t needed.
It&#039;s a time when we receive all things from the throne and we walk in newness of life, which is Christ&#039;s life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have I obtained all these things.  There seems to me to be a weaning process as the Lord reveals himself and brings us into place of full maturity at which time these things aren&#8217;t needed.<br />
It&#8217;s a time when we receive all things from the throne and we walk in newness of life, which is Christ&#8217;s life.</p>
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