Comments on: Revelation Is Sufficient

By: Charissa

Charissa — Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:07:52 +0000

Great message! It’s always much more powerful to me when I hear what someone has gone through instead of what they have heard. Then, I know they truly understand and have the passion to back up what they are saying.

Kind Regards,
Charissa

By: Clare

Clare — Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:33:43 +0000

Dear brother Chip,

I am as always, brought up short by your pithy words of truth. How I thank God every day in my heart for you and YOUR revelation of Jesus. I pray with all of my heart that you will NEVER take YOUR eyes off Him, to look either to the left, nor to the right, but set YOUR face like flint on Him.

Your words are a continual confirmation to me of those things that the LORD is revealing to me in MY solitary walk with Him. I am shown something in the spirit, and I yearn to take it before others to confirm it – yet there are none around me to confer with. God CONSTANTLY brings confirmation and clarity of His Word to me through you, and your wonderful, precise, clear, uncluttered words of wisdom that I believe come straight from the throne of grace.

Having said that, please do not MISunderstand me, that I should think of MYSELF more highly than I ought, but to test the spirits continually to ensure that I am not going astray. So MANY other voices are “out there” to deceive and to lead God’s children astray, and having been there and done that, I NEVER want to leave that path that He has set my feet upon again. We have to be SOOOO VERY careful to make sure that those things that WE speak into others’ lives is TRUTH, that I FIRST must test MY heart, MY understanding, MY knowledge, that I do not lead others astray by false teaching that I will be held accountable for. In 1 Cor.14 we are told that we are subject to other prophets. There is GREAT responsibility laid on the head of him who passes on the baton of the Word of God, to speak the TRUTH and not to add to it or take away from it, or distort it in any way, but to REVEAL it as it points to the One Who Is The Truth, the Way and the Life, Jesus Christ.

By: Brenlee

Brenlee — Fri, 15 Oct 2010 06:48:22 +0000

Thank you Chip for “testifying” about Jesus. And thank you to all who commented and shared their personal experience and insight (understanding). The only thing I would add, that if people understood would clear up a lot of confusion and fear of “revelation”. . . and that is, God will never give you a “revelation” that will contradict the written Word. And now I understand that it’s because the written Word and the living Word are one and the same. My understanding of revelation is that God, by His Holy Spirit, opens up the eyes of our understanding of the written Word which we’ve put in our hearts, making it real to us and revealing it to the inner man. (I hope I’ve expressed this correctly.) I’ve had what I believe are revelations, where God made His Word so real to me. And yet I feel I still lack a revelation of Jesus. “This is eternal life, that you may KNOW HIM.” I need to KNOW Jesus in a way that I don’t think I’ve ever known Him.

By: Mary Roberts

Mary Roberts — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:42:33 +0000

Have you ever noticed in Revelation 1:1 that the Revelation is the FATHERS who gives it to Jesus? Important because Jesus doesn’t have the Revelation in Matt 24:36 when he walked the earth, nor did any man or angel, but in Revelation 1:1 God had given it to Jesus who gave it to a angel to give to a man.Like in the days of Noah, we will know the day. Thank You for allowing me to comment.

By: eve

eve — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:16:13 +0000

There is only one way to know the real Jesus and that is so simple that most people over look it.

Give him your heart. Not a Sunday morning heart, or a Tuesday night cell group meeting heart.

No, you think about what he has done for you, then you think how he would see you if you had never bothered to thank him for all he has done. Then you think about those you know in your life that you love and who love you and you finally realise that Jesus gave you more than they could.

You finally realise that however hard you try to give back to him you can’t match him.

Then and only then when it has sunk in do you realise that you desire to offer him all that you are in yourself; but you can’t do this for you don’t know how for no one around you can teach you. And if you do try to talk to others who say they follow Jesus, they will not understand your desperation to know him. (They are not ready yet so pray for them.)

So you finally go to the source, to Jesus and say something like:
“Lord, I can give you nothing but I wish to give you everything of me. I want to give the rest of my life to you for I know that you wish to know me because you died to save me. Help me to know you.”

You offer your heart. Jesus already gave you his heart, pierced if you like, on the cross. In time when you are ready Jesus will show you how to know him in deeper ways within your heart. I would add he is a gentle teacher and will not frighten you ever. But there is a cost.

To know him means you must be willing to be totally honest with yourself before him. Totally honest means you know that he, for he loves you enough to not leave you where you are now, will teach you how to face up to things that have happened in your life that are not good, and so you learn to submit to his teaching and care. His pruning and his gentle grace as he shows you how to grow into him and become closer and live as one in him. As one means you start to learn to forget to put yourself needs first.

It is not easy, but I would have my life no other way, even when it hurts me emotionally.

When I see him, even after such a time of knowing him, and I do know him; I will fall down at his feet feeling like I am not worthy of him. Not in fear of him, but in great awe of him and his willingness to come and meet me where I am at. Little me.

I am one of many who have found Jesus by revelation, and my hearts cry is that those of you who read these words will also find him to the same depth of love that I am now experiencing.

Eve UK

Jesus is waiting for you to get serious about wanting to know him. It’s your choice to respond to him or not. He graciously gave you free will to wish to know him or to refuse him.

By: Tracy

Tracy — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:12:40 +0000

Today I am deeply burdened for those who are blinded -I know personally the enimity and I have lost alot due to revelation.. However; Christ is ALL and I am so humbled that God opened my eyes and ears to HIM – isn’t it funny how ( the ones on the inside ) label those who actually abide in Christ as crazy , wrong or even religious? Makes no sense does it. Once a family member told me No ( leader ) will ever be right in your eyes – and of course I stated ” your right cause it’s all about Christ not mere men! God Bless u all on this journey – hold firm to your faith !

By: Judy B

Judy B — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:18:54 +0000

i figured it was intentional how you write “I am your brother”. I think I am getting it now.I’d love to look at my life this way. I am so exausted of the lonliness.
>>So, He establishes the Ecclesia, the called-out-of-the-world assembly of those who have been given the Revelation of Jesus, that they may translate it into the Testimony of Jesus by bearing witness to what they have seen and heard<<

I am out of time. thank you I am thinking about the things you written.

By: Maris

Maris — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:04:00 +0000

In reply to Christy. Thank you, chuck and Chip, for sharing your thoughts here!!! I was encouraged by that. Much love to you!!!

By: Chip Brogden

Chip Brogden — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:40:41 +0000

In reply to Sharon.

Hi Chuck,

I appreciate your concern. If we sought personal revelation outside of, in addition to, or apart from the revelation of Christ then I would be concerned, too. But that is not the focus of the article. And yes, I suppose spiritual maturity is not a requirement for being “saved” but I would suggest that God has a purpose for us that extends beyond salvation. Seeking a deeper, richer, more mature revelation into Christ is the point of being a disciple, the goal being a maturity in our relationship that goes towards knowing the Savior Himself and not just knowing the salvation He provides. Such a desire for deeper knowing brings us into fellowship with the likes of Paul, who certainly had the revelation of Christ, but expressed an ongoing desire to “know Him.” Instead of stating his contentment with being saved, he said he “had not yet attained, and was not yet perfected” (Phil. 2).

In addition, Paul prayed that the Ephesian saints (who were already saved) would be granted “the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him” (Eph 1). If everyone could just be content with the revelation of Jesus already given in Scripture then Paul was praying superfluously. He should have just told them to read his letters, because they were revelation enough. The fact is there are depths of Christ yet to fathom, and even if it is all contained within Scripture, having Scripture does not guarantee we understand or have actually experienced the truths of Scripture. For this we need the Holy Spirit to personally unlock these truths and give us understanding; thus Paul is correct to pray for that ongoing wisdom and revelation, and we are correct to seek it.

I’m not sure what you mean by “enmity”. There is always enmity between children of the Spirit and children of the flesh. There’s really nothing we can do about that. Thank you for your feedback, I hope this helps to clarify.

By: chuck selander

chuck selander — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:37:25 +0000

In reply to Darrell.

Chip,
I guess I was refering how one is saved. It is by faith and faith alone. I agree–we must grow in our knowlegde of Jesus and what He desires. My wife’s and my purpose statement is that of Paul in Col. 2: 2-3. It surely means going on with Christ and encourging others to do the same–but salvations start is by faith and continues to be by faith until He returns. I’m not talking about a life of shallowly following Jesus–we need to press on–but it is still by faith.
My concern continues to be for those who “need” something else that a faith-response to be sure that we are saved.
thanks for the response and I do appreciate reading your devotionals–.
chuck