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		By: David Henderson		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2017 04:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great conversation ! It was as good as the read . I happen to believe that it is God&#039;s will that none should be lost , the fire is what refines , and I have been in a lot of fires , But thank God He always puts me out in the nick of time .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great conversation ! It was as good as the read . I happen to believe that it is God&#8217;s will that none should be lost , the fire is what refines , and I have been in a lot of fires , But thank God He always puts me out in the nick of time .</p>
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		By: Bryce		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2615</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 03:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good question. Thanks again Chip, for your insight.  It&#039;s good to know that we are not confined to finite (carnal) parameters to understand an infinite God of infinite love.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question. Thanks again Chip, for your insight.  It&#8217;s good to know that we are not confined to finite (carnal) parameters to understand an infinite God of infinite love.</p>
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		By: Chip Brogden		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2614</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chip Brogden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2016 22:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2613&quot;&gt;Bryce&lt;/a&gt;.

My reading of Scripture definitely holds out the possibility. It speaks of &quot;this age,&quot; &quot;the age to come&quot; and &quot;the ages to come&quot; before &quot;the end&quot; comes, when all things are submitted to Christ, Christ is submitted to God, and God becomes &quot;all in all&quot; (not all in some or some in some). Death is a barrier to us, but it is not a barrier to God, for &quot;He is the God of both the living and the dead&quot; and &quot;all live before Him.&quot; I have never heard a reasonable explanation for why Jesus &quot;preached to the spirits that were in prison&quot; if God is limited to the brief duration of our earthly life to reach us. Who made up these rules? Both death and hell are considered &quot;enemies&quot; that will one day be destroyed by the consuming fire of... which is it - God&#039;s wrath, or God&#039;s love? Even after the Lake of Fire judgment we see leaves of the tree which are for &quot;the healing of the nations.&quot; What is left to heal if all the &quot;sinners&quot; have been destroyed? If &quot;all things&quot; are made new and death is destroyed, does this not at least give us hope, if not 100% belief? Of course this is not a traditional interpretation of Scripture, but you have to ask, where does the traditional view comes from?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2613">Bryce</a>.</p>
<p>My reading of Scripture definitely holds out the possibility. It speaks of &#8220;this age,&#8221; &#8220;the age to come&#8221; and &#8220;the ages to come&#8221; before &#8220;the end&#8221; comes, when all things are submitted to Christ, Christ is submitted to God, and God becomes &#8220;all in all&#8221; (not all in some or some in some). Death is a barrier to us, but it is not a barrier to God, for &#8220;He is the God of both the living and the dead&#8221; and &#8220;all live before Him.&#8221; I have never heard a reasonable explanation for why Jesus &#8220;preached to the spirits that were in prison&#8221; if God is limited to the brief duration of our earthly life to reach us. Who made up these rules? Both death and hell are considered &#8220;enemies&#8221; that will one day be destroyed by the consuming fire of&#8230; which is it &#8211; God&#8217;s wrath, or God&#8217;s love? Even after the Lake of Fire judgment we see leaves of the tree which are for &#8220;the healing of the nations.&#8221; What is left to heal if all the &#8220;sinners&#8221; have been destroyed? If &#8220;all things&#8221; are made new and death is destroyed, does this not at least give us hope, if not 100% belief? Of course this is not a traditional interpretation of Scripture, but you have to ask, where does the traditional view comes from?</p>
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		By: Bryce		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2613</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks again Chip. That makes perfect sense to me.  I&#039;ve always struggled with the concept, where darkness is influencing us to resist God, while God is drawing us with love, but in the end only a remnant gets saved, while the majority of mankind is either annihilated or tortured for eternity.  That hardly portrays a victorious God.
  May I ask, are you suggesting in your next article, &#039;The Goal of this Age&#039; that God is not limited to our lifetimes to change us, but will pursue those that resisted Him, in the age to come until &quot;every knee will bow&quot;?  That, if true would be an awesome shift in thinking for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Chip. That makes perfect sense to me.  I&#8217;ve always struggled with the concept, where darkness is influencing us to resist God, while God is drawing us with love, but in the end only a remnant gets saved, while the majority of mankind is either annihilated or tortured for eternity.  That hardly portrays a victorious God.<br />
  May I ask, are you suggesting in your next article, &#8216;The Goal of this Age&#8217; that God is not limited to our lifetimes to change us, but will pursue those that resisted Him, in the age to come until &#8220;every knee will bow&#8221;?  That, if true would be an awesome shift in thinking for me.</p>
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		By: Chip Brogden		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2612</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chip Brogden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 17:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2611&quot;&gt;Bryce&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, it is possible to resist the irresistible, but my belief is that you cannot resist Him forever. Temporary resistance is seen in many examples. Stephen to the Sanhedrin: &quot;You do always resist the Holy Spirit, just as your fathers.&quot; The Hebrews &quot;limited the Holy One of Israel&quot; and &quot;could not enter in because of unbelief.&quot; Jesus wanted to gather Jerusalem as a hen gathers her chicks but &quot;they would not&quot; and He &quot;could do no mighty works there because of their unbelief.&quot; Jesus to the religious leaders: &quot;You make the Word of God of no effect because of your tradition.&quot; These are some examples that immediately come to mind. Where I differ with most is I don&#039;t believe you can resist God forever; I don&#039;t see an eternity with a pocket of rebellion cursing the Creator. That would make man more powerful than God, to think that the thing created can outwit the One Who created it, blessed be His Name. Man does have a will of his own, but man is not omnipotent. God also has a Will, and in the end, God&#039;s Will prevails - not by force, but by wearing down the finite stubbornness of man against the infinite love of God. A two-year-old resists taking a nap, kicking and screaming and crying the whole time - but eventually, all resistance fades away and they inevitably go down of their own accord. So will mankind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2611">Bryce</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, it is possible to resist the irresistible, but my belief is that you cannot resist Him forever. Temporary resistance is seen in many examples. Stephen to the Sanhedrin: &#8220;You do always resist the Holy Spirit, just as your fathers.&#8221; The Hebrews &#8220;limited the Holy One of Israel&#8221; and &#8220;could not enter in because of unbelief.&#8221; Jesus wanted to gather Jerusalem as a hen gathers her chicks but &#8220;they would not&#8221; and He &#8220;could do no mighty works there because of their unbelief.&#8221; Jesus to the religious leaders: &#8220;You make the Word of God of no effect because of your tradition.&#8221; These are some examples that immediately come to mind. Where I differ with most is I don&#8217;t believe you can resist God forever; I don&#8217;t see an eternity with a pocket of rebellion cursing the Creator. That would make man more powerful than God, to think that the thing created can outwit the One Who created it, blessed be His Name. Man does have a will of his own, but man is not omnipotent. God also has a Will, and in the end, God&#8217;s Will prevails &#8211; not by force, but by wearing down the finite stubbornness of man against the infinite love of God. A two-year-old resists taking a nap, kicking and screaming and crying the whole time &#8211; but eventually, all resistance fades away and they inevitably go down of their own accord. So will mankind.</p>
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		By: Bryce		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2611</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 07:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Chip for your insight and patience. You did, however, leave me in a 30 minute debate with my wife. LOL  &#039;Is it  possible to resist the irresistible?&#039;.  I guess I should read your book. Cheers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chip for your insight and patience. You did, however, leave me in a 30 minute debate with my wife. LOL  &#8216;Is it  possible to resist the irresistible?&#8217;.  I guess I should read your book. Cheers</p>
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		By: Chip Brogden		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2610</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chip Brogden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 19:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Bryce, I&#039;m not sure it is 100% accurate to say Paul had &quot;nothing to do&quot; with the transformation. It seems his conscience was being pricked by the Holy Spirit, and he was kicking against the goads i.e. resisting the conviction of the Holy Spirit. At some point the wooing of God became irresistible and Paul stopped fighting. I think there is something to be said for seeking God, or seeking Truth, and searching for it. This seems to put someone in a place of greater receptivity for grace, and Scripture even promises that God &quot;diligently rewards&quot; those who seek Him. So I think there is a balance between seeking Him and receiving grace. It is clear that He stirs something in us that draws us toward Him, but it is also clear that we can resist the Spirit indefinitely, and perhaps that explains some of the tension between these two states.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bryce, I&#8217;m not sure it is 100% accurate to say Paul had &#8220;nothing to do&#8221; with the transformation. It seems his conscience was being pricked by the Holy Spirit, and he was kicking against the goads i.e. resisting the conviction of the Holy Spirit. At some point the wooing of God became irresistible and Paul stopped fighting. I think there is something to be said for seeking God, or seeking Truth, and searching for it. This seems to put someone in a place of greater receptivity for grace, and Scripture even promises that God &#8220;diligently rewards&#8221; those who seek Him. So I think there is a balance between seeking Him and receiving grace. It is clear that He stirs something in us that draws us toward Him, but it is also clear that we can resist the Spirit indefinitely, and perhaps that explains some of the tension between these two states.</p>
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		By: Bryce		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2609</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 03:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Rick,confused, and looking for a reasonable explanation. I don&#039;t believe that Saul/Paul&#039;s conversion was to be the exception, but rather the rule, as he was consistently referring to himself as a reference to the &#039;before and after&#039;. So if we look back and see that he had nothing to do with the initiation and the result of his transformation, then how can we ourselves or expect others to do anything but wait and hope that God will maybe grant us that same grace. Any thoughts?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Rick,confused, and looking for a reasonable explanation. I don&#8217;t believe that Saul/Paul&#8217;s conversion was to be the exception, but rather the rule, as he was consistently referring to himself as a reference to the &#8216;before and after&#8217;. So if we look back and see that he had nothing to do with the initiation and the result of his transformation, then how can we ourselves or expect others to do anything but wait and hope that God will maybe grant us that same grace. Any thoughts?</p>
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		By: Chip Brogden		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2608</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chip Brogden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2607&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve freely shared my experience in several places, two that come to mind are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chipbrogden.com/why-i-dont-go-to-church-anymore/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chipbrogden.com/victory-is-a-man/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2607">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve freely shared my experience in several places, two that come to mind are <a href="http://www.chipbrogden.com/why-i-dont-go-to-church-anymore/" rel="nofollow ugc">here</a> and <a href="http://www.chipbrogden.com/victory-is-a-man/" rel="nofollow ugc">here</a>.</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
		<link>https://theschoolofchrist.org/who-then-can-be-saved#comment-2607</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love the testimony, whenever I read of Paul in His letters, he always refers to his encounter with the risen Lord. 

How about giving a personal testimony of your &quot;Chip-meet-Jesus&quot; experience. I&#039;d love to hear that. 

Otherwise, we can theorise the experiences of others without experiencing that ourselves.

Just thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the testimony, whenever I read of Paul in His letters, he always refers to his encounter with the risen Lord. </p>
<p>How about giving a personal testimony of your &#8220;Chip-meet-Jesus&#8221; experience. I&#8217;d love to hear that. </p>
<p>Otherwise, we can theorise the experiences of others without experiencing that ourselves.</p>
<p>Just thinking.</p>
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