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Let Us Build for You!

by Chip Brogden
We cannot build the Church, for Jesus is building it. Similarly, we cannot assemble ourselves together; the Lord has to do that as well. I am not saying we cannot have a meeting, but I am saying that a meeting is not what makes us the Church.

“…Then it happened, as they were parting from Him, that Peter said to Jesus, “Master, it is good for us to be here; and let us make three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah”—not knowing what he said.” (Luke 9:33).

There are many such meetings we can host or attend, but that does not make us the Church. People frequently ask me if I know where they can go to find fellowship. After examining them at length I determine that what they are really looking for is a meeting. Well, meetings are everywhere. You do not need me for that. I am afraid that I cannot recommend “meetings”, I can only recommend brothers and sisters who love the Lord.

The Greek word for “church” is “ekklesia”, which means “called out ones” and came to mean the assembly (or local expression) of those who had been called out and set apart. This assembling together is not something we do on our own. It is the work of the Lord. We are not the Church because we gather ourselves together into a meeting or a group. Anyone can organize themselves into a meeting for whatever purpose they wish. But we are being assembled by the Lord Himself into a spiritual temple, a House of Living Stones. Jesus is building His Church, and Jesus is assembling His people. Our meetings are external and visible, but this assembly of Living Stones is internal, invisible, spiritual and eternal. I pray that God will deliver us from “meetings” and show us His Son. Then we will see that we have already been assembled together into the Church that He is building upon the revelation of Himself.

Now the Lord wants to assemble us together into a spiritual Temple, but if we look around it is clear that we are divided over several issues. We could go down the list and name them all. We could take time to talk about denominations, organizations, doctrines, beliefs, customs, and the like. We could draw up a list of one hundred or one thousand divisions, but the heart of the matter is this: have we seen the Lord? If we have seen the Lord then we do not need to see anything else: this revelation of Him is sufficient. And, if we have not seen the Lord, it is a waste of time to try and discuss anything else along the lines of doctrine or teaching.

So the question is: have you seen the Lord? I do not mean in a dream or a vision, but I mean have you seen the Lord because the Father has revealed Him in you? It is possible to pray a prayer, but not see the Lord. It is possible to perform good works, but not see the Lord. It is possible (and quite common) to attend church meetings all your life, but not see the Lord. Two men who claimed to know Jesus walked with Him on the road to Emmaus, but they did not know Who He was until their eyes were opened. Many people are in the same situation. We cannot see Him until the eyes of our heart are opened, and when we are thus illuminated from within, we will see Him, we will know Him.

If you have read the Scriptures you know that many who say, “Lord, Lord” and do mighty things in the name of the Lord are, in fact, not known by Him at all, and will have no part in the Kingdom of God. This ought to bring us to our knees. This ought to cause us to search our hearts. Do we really know the Lord? Have we really seen Him? Has God revealed His Son to us?

When we look at the history of God’s dealings with man we see a pattern emerging, and this pattern is illustrated for us in the Mountain of Transfiguration, an event recorded in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. Here is the pattern. First, the Lord sovereignly reveals His glory to us. Then, we try to grasp the Lord with fleshly hands. Finally, the Lord moves on, and we must either move with Him or stay where we are. Let us look at each point more particularly.

“He Was Transfigured Before Them”

We are saying that the revelation of Christ is sufficient; that is, if we have seen the Lord Jesus, then nothing else matters, and in time, everything else will take care of itself. But if we do not have the revelation of Christ, if we only have our idea of Who He is, or if our knowledge of Him comes to us from somewhere or someone other than the Father Himself, then it does not matter how much we may read the Bible, attend meetings, or hear people preach. We will be “ever learning, but never coming to the full-knowledge of Truth”. This explains how it is possible for someone to perform many works in the Name of Jesus, and yet the Lord Himself says, “I never knew you.”

The Lord reveals Himself to us in a variety of ways, and every testimony is different. Peter received the revelation of Christ while fishing. But Thomas received the revelation of Christ only after the Lord appeared to Him and showed him His wounds. Paul received the revelation of Christ on the road to Damascus, as he was on his way to kill Christians. One man says Christ was revealed to him as he stood watching a tree in the dead of winter. Christ was revealed to me as I sat in my backyard, arguing with the Lord over the Bible.

What do these experiences have in common? They are spontaneous unveilings of Jesus Christ. Without warning the Lord simply reveals Himself, and whereas we were blind before, today we see. It is like walking out of one room and into another room, closing the door behind us. We are the man born blind in John 9. It is not that he can improve himself, or gradually come to the place where he can see something. He is BORN blind, and he can see nothing but darkness until the Lord, the Light of the world, makes him see. So many blind people hope to improve their seeing through sermons, meetings, and more teachings. But one moment of seeing is worth ten thousand years of learning. It is better to sit at the feet of an ignorant man who has seen the Lord than it is to be instructed by the most educated Bible teacher who is blind to the things of God.

Frequently when I speak along these lines I am asked, “What do I have to do to get this revelation of Christ?” And the answer is there is nothing TO do, and nothing you CAN do. But we are confident in saying that it is the nature of the Father to reveal Himself. The Father longs to reveal the Son to us. The only condition is that we likewise long to see Him, to know Him, as He is. The revelation of Christ is like a single ray of sunlight, without warning, breaking through the thick clouds of this world and knocking you to the ground – inwardly speaking. It may or it may not be an outward thing, and it may or may not be something dramatic. But when we have seen Him, something “clicks” on the inside. We know we have been changed.

It can be likened to the Mountain of Transfiguration. The Lord Jesus took Peter, James and John with Him high onto the mountain to pray. Presumably they were in the habit of doing this, as the Scriptures record several instances of the Lord at prayer. But on this occasion, His appearance was changed, and His glory was revealed to them. It was a sovereign act, an unveiling. There was no warning, no special preparation. Peter, James and John had nothing to do with it. In fact, they were sleeping when it happened. I hope that will reassure those of us who think there is something we have to do in order to get the revelation of Christ. No, it is all of grace. In fact, until we rest from our works and our words, we are unlikely to see the Lord.

Now we have primarily discussed the revealing of Christ to us personally, but there is also a corporate revelation as well. What we receive of the Lord personally ought to be received on behalf of the Body, and not merely for our own personal benefit. Even so, there is an unveiling of the Lord that occasionally occurs when we are gathered together in the Name of the Lord. After all, He says that “where two or three are gathered together in My Name, there I am in the midst of them.” This is the simplest expression of the Church – the called-out assembly. Not two or three thousand, not two or three hundred, not two or three dozen – just two or three, and the Lord is there. We are so concerned for numbers. The real issue is not how many are gathered, but is the Lord with the ones so gathered? I would rather be with two people and have the Lord with us than to be in a crowd of religious people with whom the Lord is not present.

It is in this corporate revelation of Christ that we find a danger, and Peter expresses it nicely when the first words out of his mouth are…

“It is Good for Us… Let Us Build for You!”

Here is a point that needs to be made. When the Father is pleased to reveal His Son to us, it is for His glory, not ours. So often we seek spiritual things because we desire a name, or power, or glory for ourselves. This is not permitted in the Kingdom where Christ is All in All. What we see of the Lord is for His glory, and not our own.

But just observe how quickly the Self comes into the picture. “Master, it is good for us to be here!” Good for us. Good for us. Good for us. We hear this sentiment all the time. “Isn’t it good to be in the house of God today?” “I really enjoyed the message.” “I loved the music.” “What a lovely service.” “I’m so happy I found this little group.” Or, “I didn’t get anything out of that message.” “The music was awful.” “They don’t have anything for my kids.” I, I, I. Me, me, me. Good for us, or not good for us. The music, the preaching, the service, everything is for us, for our needs.

This is why we continually stress that the reason we do not attend or sponsor meetings with any regularity is simply because the Lord’s Need is often not met in these meetings. Self permeates so much of what we do (or do not do), even in spiritual matters where Self is supposed to be denied. Peter is a man full of himself. So his reaction to the glory of the Lord is, “It is good for us! Let us build for You…” This is how many works, denominations and ministries are begun. The Lord sovereignly reveals something of His glory to a handful of people, and they begin to build something – a church, a movement, a denomination – in order to contain that glory. Or, the Lord visits His people in a particular meeting or setting. It is good for us: so we decide to meet again the next week in hopes that we can experience more of the same. And so on. We believe if only we can find the right combination of music, or teaching, or worship, or people, then it will be “good for us” every time we meet. Soon, however, the Life is gone and the glory is departed, but the meetings continue!

“I will build My Church,” Jesus says. That is Life. “Let us build for You,” Peter says. That is Death. To see if a thing is living or dead we need only trace its source. Not only is “let us build” wrong, but “let us build FOR YOU” is equally wrong. Each is motivated by the same thing: “It is good for us.”

What Peter did not realize, and what we, too, fail to perceive, is that the glory is in Christ, and not in a method, a meeting, or a movement: and it is for Him, and not for us. How quickly “It is good for us…” turns into “Let us build for You…” How subtle our flesh is! How often in the name of “fellowship” have we have built something “for” the Lord Jesus that really serves our own agenda?

“Listen to Him!”

Scripture records that Peter did not know what he was saying, even while he was offering to build something for Jesus. Jesus gave him no reply. Instead, a cloud enveloped them, and a voice spoke: “This is My beloved Son. Listen to Him!”

The Father is continually pointing us to the Son as All in All. He is working all things together towards the fulfillment of His Purpose, which is for Christ to have the preeminence in all things. So it is at this point that the Lord Jesus begins to descend into the valley, and the disciples must decide if they will stay on the mountain or follow Him down. The mountain is full of light, power, and glory. But the valley is full of darkness and demons. “It is good for US to be HERE, Lord! Let us build something for You!”

How many tabernacles on the mountaintop have been made in the Name of Jesus – when Jesus has long ago descended into the valley? How many people and places claim the presence and glory of God, when the glory has long ago departed? I can think of several instances in which the Lord genuinely moved in a group, church, or meeting long ago, and now that group, church, or meeting has built an entire movement around the experience. What began in the Spirit is now perpetuated by the flesh, and “it is good for us”. It is a shame that some people cannot realize that there is no presence, or glory, or power, or anything apart from the Lord Jesus. We can claim to have the presence, the glory, and the power, but if we do not have the Lord Himself, then these things are only spiritual counterfeits.

Jesus multiplied the loaves and the fish, and the crowd thought, “It is good for us to be here!” But Jesus left during the night and crossed the lake. The people woke up the next morning to find Him gone, and crossed the lake in a desperate attempt to locate Him. But when they found Jesus, He said, in essence, “You are only following Me because I filled your stomachs with food.” It is important to make this distinction, because I am afraid that if something is deemed “good for us” then we will begin to follow IT and miss the Lord. John records this episode in order to signify that the real miracle is not that the Lord gave them bread to eat, but that the Lord gives Himself to us as Living Bread. Which would you rather have, a full stomach, or eternal life? The presence of God, or God Himself? The glory of God, or God Himself? Do we want salvation, or a Savior? Do we want a healing, or a Great Physician? Do we want what the Lord can give us, or Who the Lord is?

Christians seek many spiritual things: anointing, power, gifts, blessing, fruit, wisdom, prosperity. I pray the Lord will make us thoroughly and completely dissatisfied with THINGS, even the things He gives us, and make us hungry and thirsty for Himself. May we judge things not by whether they are “good for us”, but whether they are good for the Lord, whether His Will is done in them, whether His Need is met by them, whether His Purpose is fulfilled in them, whether His Son is seen through them. He is the Only One, the Beloved Son of God. May the Lord be transfigured before us! Amen.

16 Comments

  1. Brenda

    This particular article is very timely for me personally. I have prayed for just this very thing..to KNOW him. I have gone to many different churches and not found Him. Nothing I do is enough to satisfy the yearning I feel. I am so thankful for people whom the Lord has given inspiration to pass on to others. This is one of those times. Praise God for His revelation of Himself to us.

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  2. Lisa

    Amen.
    I just want to put my hands over my mouth and sit down…
    like Job.

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  3. jane

    I just want to say Yea! This is a true word. I believe the Lord has not completely revealed Himself to me. It seems to be a gradual revelation. Chip’s writings are very instrumental in helping me by pointing to Jesus and scripture in its context. Ater reading this article I wanted to write something to exclaim that Truth is here! What came to my heart is the song “Bless the Lord, O my soul, And all that is within me bless His Holy Name.” I didnt realize until I looked it up that the scripture reference for this song is Psalm 103. Is sums up who we are and who He is. Thank you Chip for sending these daily words. I am most grateful. Bless the Lord!!!

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  4. OJEDOKUN DIMEJI

    PERFECT!!! I AM HUMBLED. I PRAY THAT SELF GET COMPLETELY TAKEN OUT OF MY HUMANITY(BABYLONIAN SELF) ONLY FOR HIS DIVINTY TO TAKE OVER, SO THAT WHEN GOD LOOKS DOWN FROM HEAVEN WHAT HE SEES IS HIMSELF TAKING LORDSHIP OVER ME AND ALL OF US.
    BUT CHIP, U DID MENTION THAT “It is in this corporate revelation of Christ that we find a danger”, I THINK THERE IS ALSO DANGER IN PERSONAL INTERPRETATION OF THE TRUTH. PEOPLE ARE LAYING CLAIM TO THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS HAVING SPOKEN TO THEM. THIS HAD GIVEN RISE TO THE PERSONAL HOLY SPIRIT SYNDROME WHICH I BELIEVE HAS RESULTED IN THE CONFUSION SEEN AROUND TODAY.SINCE WHATEVER IS BEEN SPOKEN TO ONE IS FOR ALL, THEN WE ALL NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO ONE ANOTHER.WE KNOW IN PARTS. I THINK ALL THAT IS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE SHOULD BE CAREFULLY LOOKED INTO PRAYERFULLY AND BY MATURED BELIEVERS SO THAT IT IS VOID OF SELF BUT POINTING TO THE COHERENT PURPOSE AND WILL OF THE FATHER. I PRAY THAT HE REIGNS AND RULES IN THE AFFAIRS OF MEN.

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  5. Ambakisye Launi

    YES Chip you are right what is began in the Spirit is now perpetuated by the flesh ,and they start to point other group
    that they are better than others.It is just like a political parties now.

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  6. Joan

    Hi Chip, And a good morning to you. Lisa, to sit with hands over mouth like Job”. I’ve been there too…But not long…I get up, trust in MY Saviour and Friend, Jesus and carry on. He knows our weakneses, and He is our workmanship. He teaches us all things as we go about our daily lives. He came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance….We are His Light. He shines through us. That doesn’t mean we won’t have troubles, look at Paul in prison, Daniel in the lions den, and Joseph in the pit, and so on. I choose not to get drunk with my neighbors but I do help them when when they need it. I am there for them and they know it. I get cursed by my own family for standing against evil, and I get hated. But yet it’s me they come too. I’ve prayed and said to MY Lord and Friend a thousand times, “why do I have to put up with these people”…And He says, I came not but to save those that are lost. My old flesh would rather stay home and watch a movie, but no, I’m called to serve wherever I am, wherever I live, and whoever comes to me. I don’t care what soemone is wearing, where they work, how they talk, how they live, no not my concern. I’m called to love them. I tell them of my relationship with God. How He cares for, directs my paths, helps me through all hardships…Hardships that are related to doing as He asks of me. for example, I went to see a woman who drinks alot. I suppose one could say she had a drinking problem after seeing 8 cases of 24 beer stacked up from the last 2 weeks I seen her. I say, Jesus, what can I do? I can’t help her, but I know You can. Please help me to show her how wonderful a Saviour and Friend you are. Then I go. I listen to her. I pray as I’m listeniing, becuase Jesus goes where I go. He’s witnin me. She doesn’t trust me yet…I know this. Should she? If I am seeking only the will of God, yes, she can trust me. If I am there to hide from God, then no….I know that God wants to reach her. He wants to love her through me, to show her she is valuable to Him, to me, to others. We all are. I’m not judge her. God knows us through and through and He will use us , no matter who we are. In spite of who we are. He will use us, as we allow ourselves to be used by Him. I can tell you this, throughout my pitiful life, the things I remember about people the most is their giviing spirit, their loving spirit, and their acceptance of me…when I needed it most.And they were few and far between. We as Christains ought to always pray, today, Lord, What do You desire of Me?
    I find He doens’t give more than I can handle. I don’t go to a religious establishment. I don’t have time. I know because of my love for Jesus and my walk with HIm, although I try to stay alone , I am pulled to these people. They want to see me. They want to see where I live. They want to know what I do. I am not like them. They reconize this. I reconize this too. We ought to just live our lives, and not worry. Jesus is not on the sidelines. God is not ignorant to our desires to please Him. So let’s get on with it.

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  7. John David

    It is good for us, it is good for me, all equal to it is good for my flesh! Truly, the cross is the answer to the flesh. The Lord does not only lead us into green pasture but also valley of shadow of death, but how many time have we built monuments around that ”green pasture” and refused to follow Him through the “valley of shadow of death”. May the Lord grant us death in all our fleshly ways and show us that Jesus is enough!

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  8. Virginia Vaneyndthoven

    I came out of Babylon many years ago, when I saw how dead church gatherings were. It has been a lonely journey at times and lost my way a few times. The Lord has allowed me to experience many ups and downs but has never left me. My hunger now is to follow only Him and die to this self life. My experience many years ago introduced Christ personally and it truly was glorious, then tragedy stuck and set me on a downward spiral. I have been searching for that connection again with the Lord, but it is difficult to reconnect. THere are no other christians in my area that I know of whom I can connect with other ones in the church system. Do you have any suggestions, I live in a small town in Ontario, Canada? I am thankful that the Lord led me to your site. Thankful there are others who have come out of Babylon. Virginia

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    • Sue

      Virginia – Hi, where are you in ontario? I too live in a small town in Ontario – curious as to where you are. Blessings Sue

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  9. Sandy

    Hi Bro. Chip

    Gods word is always rich with truth and cuts to core of ones soul. I have been out of the religious system for 3yrs., but was still looking for fellowship with like minded believers. I was even going to move to another state just to have that fellowship. I went to visit this state the beginning of the month June 2010 to see if it was the Lords will, even though deep down I knew it wasn’t. The minute I entered that state the anger of the Lord came upon me. I became stubborn and tried to keep a self centered positive attitude.

    How Good the Lord is the people I wanted to fellowship with did not even contact me when I tried to reach them for the whole week I was in this state. Then closer to the time for me to leave. A hatred for the state came upon me. It is a beautiful place, so don’t get me wrong. Gods creation is breath taking visually and the Lord allowed me to enjoy the time there.

    I hated that I gave up on Christ will for me and was trying to run like Jonah. I was sitting in a McDonalds and the Lord revealed himself and all I could do is repent. I thank God no one came up to me and asked if I was ok, because of the tears flowing down my face. I would have given them such a testimony if they were saved or not on how the Lord corrects his children.

    I do not always want to be this way, but I am a slow learner and can be very stubborn, but Father God do not play when it comes to his Precious Beloved Son our Lord and Savior. Who rules and reign in and through my worthless life. I will tell you one of the main reasons I was running from the Lord. I did not want to learn of Him on the internet. This is so hard for me talking to people on the computer without seeing, touching, or hugging them when you need a shoulder to lean on. I have been in the medical field and church for many years ( I no longer do either) and I am just so use to people contact and people pleasing, that when the Lord ask me learn of him through The School of Christ on the internet I did not want to do it. Well guess who won that battle, Christ always get the Glory from my worthless life. I am nothing and He is everything to me. When I am week he is strong and His ways are nothing like my ways. I thank the Lord for breaking down these walls that do not please him and rebuild my dead life for his Glory. Looking forward to the disciple training.

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  10. Andrew

    Hi Brother Chip, I am in total agreement. I notice this vicious cycle of fleshly pursuits in the name of the Lord. I have said my self “it is good for us to be here”. Thank you for the reminder that our first ministry is to the Lord and that He is All in All. I am a pastor in a small congregation in South GA.I solicit your prayers that we do not fall into religiousity and churchianity. I have read your articles and teaching on the organized religious system. I am grateful for truth and sound doctrine. We are experiencing the battle of status qou church goers and those who desire to know the Lord. Please pray for us.

    Thank you
    And may the LOrd continue to bless His great ministry throught you.

    Andrew Hughlett

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  11. Mitch Culp

    Over the 45 years of serving the Lord I have found a simple little prayer that seems to work very effectively, at least for me. That prayer is this, when I feel like God is trying to reveal something real to me I simply pray the following, “Lord make this real to me “. This does not necessarily mean that it will happen immediately, but it usually does happen one way or the other. It either becomes very clear to me (over time) or I completely forget about it.

    One of our biggest problems is because of our culture causes us to keep looking for events or situations that appease our carnal nature and does not feed our spiritual being. Nothing wrong with a “mountain top experience”, but we cannot keep looking for just that alone.

    When Jesus and the three came down off the mount of transfiguration Jesus made a very profound statement that I believe that we often fail to see the significance of, but is all part of the plan. Jesus told them that they had to go to Jerusalem, (imperative). What was in Jerusalem? A CROSS!! This cross was all part of God’s eternal plan, very painful for Jesus, but very beneficial (life changing for those who will believe and receive it.

    All too often we “think” that God needs our help in solving the problems at hand, instead we need to listen to what He has already put into motion, (from the foundation of the earth) and be obedient to His word.

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  12. Ara Shahumyan

    AMEN!

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  13. jeffrey lacatus

    I believe what our brother chip described in this fantastic article is the heart cry of the Bride of Christ.The Bride of Christ seeks his face not his hand.Fantastic article Chip!!

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  14. Roger

    What a timely message this was for me, Chip. It spoke volumes to me and brought badly needed correction to some self-focused perspectives that had crept into my thinking. Thank you.

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  15. Sandrine

    Oh dear! Chip!
    This text brings many thoughts and reflections!

    First of all, I realize that I have integrated many teachings and beliefs that seem to be false… more than I thought.

    Really, thank you very much for these writings which give me food for thought to “straighten the bar”, and will reassure me on some things.

    For example:

    Stop trying to do things to have a better revelation of Christ… But just ask for God’s grace.

    To know that the revelation of the Lord is not made more specifically, more “easily”, when one is gathered together with many.

    Thank you again.
    With all my heart ❤️

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